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10/01/2008
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Vice Presidential Debate |
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Kwill49
06:38 PM
10/02/2008
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Welcome to the Vice Presidential Discussion Forum |
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Interest in this debate is running high all over the country. The number
of voters registered, difficult times economically and internationally, the
first woman named a vice presidential candidate by Republicans, the first
African American nominated to the top of a party's ticket and the
oldest American ever nominated, all are drawing the attention of American
citizens of all stripes.
Welcome to this debate. I look forward to a vigorous discussion.
With your first posting, would you please declare if you are backing
or leaning toward backing any party's presidential-vice presidential
ticket. Also, if you are undecided, let us know. I would appreciate it if
those who participate will help us wrap up afterward with overall
impressions of the debate. For those who might still be undecided, I think
it would be interesting to know if the debate swayed your opinion.
Just some housekeeping tips: don't forget to refresh. Also, you
can change the subject after you hit reply and that will allow a new thread
to start. That also helps to keep threads alive in case a flame war does
erupt and I have to delete a comment. So far, I can only delete a whole
thread, not just an individual reply.
Have fun, debate intensely, and keep it moving according to the
debate topics as the questions come up.
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Kwill49
08:02 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Welcome to the Vice Presidential Discussion Forum |
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First I want to apologize for misspelling Gwen Ifill's name.
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Kwill49
08:09 PM
10/02/2008
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First Question, the bailout |
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Best or worst of Washington?
Biden points out differences between how Bush-McCain-Palin act on the
economy, and talks about differences in how to handle, the need for
regulation and protecting the middle class.
She talks about fear of failing markets among those who have managed
to invest something.
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ConcernedMom
08:13 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: First Question, the bailout |
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Palin needs to stop simply reguritating her rehearsed talking points and
actually answer a question.
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Kwill49
08:16 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: First Question, the bailout |
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Hello, Concerned Mom. Do you have a party preference at this point in the
campaign?
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ConcernedMom
08:18 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Re: First Question, the bailout |
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I'm not a Republican soccer mom. :)
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ConcernedMom
08:19 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Re: Re: First Question, the bailout |
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Nor am I a Republican hockey mom. I'm an independent that tends to
vote Democrat.
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Kwill49
08:21 PM
10/02/2008
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Second topic: Health Care |
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Which of the health care plan explanations are you seeing more favorably.
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ConcernedMom
08:25 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Second topic: Health Care |
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Definitely Biden's plan. I don't know how the small businesses
in America will be able to afford to offer health care insurance to their
employee's under the Republican's plan.
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Kwill49
08:28 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Second topic: Health Care |
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Good point. This debate, I think, really shows the advantage that a
governor has vs a senator because they have cast so many votes, it's
hard to take votes on those huge omnibus bills and parse out specific
positions.
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Kwill49
08:32 PM
10/02/2008
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Rehearsed debate? |
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Concerned Mom, I think you are correct that she keeps driving her topic
back to her rehearsed speeches. I don't know what you're watching
this on, but I'm looking at CNN right now and the watchers using their
interestometers or whatever they're called, really fall off when she
starts that.
"I don't want to argue about the cause." Really weak.
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ConcernedMom
08:34 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Rehearsed debate? |
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I am watching CNN. I noticed that each time she mentions McCain's
name the interestmeters fall off.
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ConcernedMom
08:35 PM
10/02/2008
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Drill Baby Drill |
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I don't know if you recall the phrase that was chanted at the
Republican convention.
I agree we need to rely on domestic oil production, but we don't
need to limit ourselves to conventional energy sources.
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photojojo
08:40 PM
10/02/2008
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hack the debate |
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I'm watching hack the debate at
http://current.com/topics/88834922_hack_the_debate Twitter comments
streaming live on the screen.
Oh yeah, I'm Democrat raised by a gay family.
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Kwill49
08:41 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: hack the debate |
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photojojo, I never knew.
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Kwill49
08:44 PM
10/02/2008
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War |
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The meter fell off big time when Sarah mentioned her plan to end and went
way off when Joe mentioned ending the war.
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ConcernedMom
08:45 PM
10/02/2008
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I could never be a politician |
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I would need a staffer whose sole job would be to tazer me when my opponent
decided to re-write history.
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Kwill49
08:46 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: War |
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Check that comment, I meant to write when she talked about McCain's
plan to not end the war.
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Kwill49
08:47 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: I could never be a politician |
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I'm laughing so hard about that.
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ConcernedMom
08:47 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: War |
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It's time for the Iraqi government to step up to the plate and help
fund the efforts to protect their country.
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Kwill49
08:51 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: I could never be a politician |
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How can Sarah Palin sound so much like George Bush? Again she sounds way
rehearsed and is not making statements that are on point.
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Kwill49
08:54 PM
10/02/2008
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Policy on Israel |
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I wish Ifill would ask how they would deal with heads of democracies with
whom we don't agree.
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ConcernedMom
08:54 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Re: I could never be a politician |
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I just told my husband that I think George W. has two sisters.
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ConcernedMom
08:56 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Policy on Israel |
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I agree Kathy. I think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian President, is much
more of a threat to us than those scary Castro Brothers.
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Kwill49
08:56 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Policy on Israel |
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Great statement by Biden on not hearing any change in plans.
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ConcernedMom
09:00 PM
10/02/2008
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Performance |
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This was Biden's debate to lose. Palin had nowhere to go but up. I
was concerned Biden would be viewed as too abrasive toward Palin.
(She's much more delicate than Hillary.)
I think he's done a good job tonight, and Palin is simply coming
across as too rehearsed.
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Kwill49
09:03 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Performance |
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I agree. I was afraid that Biden would come off as too restrained. She has
held her own in terms of avoiding the deer in the headlights look, but all
of the avoidance comes at the cost of seeming able to think on her feet.
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ConcernedMom
09:05 PM
10/02/2008
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War |
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She's conveniently forgot we entered the war under false pretenses
(WMD).
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Kwill49
09:12 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: War |
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Yes, also that Biden apologized for his vote. I think he could have called
her on the against it before for it. That's a bad issue for her with
the road to nowhere. And I am really not buying this extra folkiness, gosh
darn it.
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ConcernedMom
09:15 PM
10/02/2008
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Role Reversal -VP Role |
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Currently, I think the VP runs our country. Bush is a puppet. If McCain is
elected, Palin will be a puppet.
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ConcernedMom
09:23 PM
10/02/2008
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Experience |
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I have a difficult time believing that being the mayor of the town roughly
the size of Bonham or Whitesboro qualifies you to be the VP of the US.
Also, let us not forget what happened the last time we sent a governor
to DC. I would hardly call Alaska the heartland of America. She's
the governor of a state with roughly the same population of Austin.
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Kwill49
09:28 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Experience |
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I think this last question has been the best, the one on whether
you've ever changed your mind.
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Kwill49
09:32 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Experience |
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I think we just saw Palin channeling Reagan.
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ConcernedMom
09:34 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: Re: Experience |
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Guess she was coached by Peggy Noonan and Karl Rove.
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Kwill49
09:36 PM
10/02/2008
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So how do you score it |
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Kwill49
09:41 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: So how do you score it |
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Well, thank you for participating. This was a pretty lonely discussion. I
am rethinking doing this next time, but I might try inviting an audience.
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ConcernedMom
09:43 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: So how do you score it |
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Again, I think Palin had nowhere to go but up during this debate. Her
folksy, Pollyanna rhetoric lacks substance. I think the viewers tonight
saw her as overly coached and rehearsed. I question her ability to think
fast on her feet and to think for herself.
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Kwill49
09:54 PM
10/02/2008
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Re: Re: So how do you score it |
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How did you think Biden did?
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